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05 September 2008 @ 03:51 pm
speaking of banning books  
Several of the listservs have been abuzz with the story about Palin's attempt to ban books. One list has asked us to suspend the discussion as it is political. YA THINK? Of course this is political. As Banned Books Week approaches, let's take this discussion on and make certain folks hear about what censors would have us remove.

ETA: I removed the list of books Palin had objected to from this post as it caused my comment box to be filled with some nasty comments. I copied the list from another blog that indicated it was from a TIME article. However, I just checked the article and there is no list. Even if there were, I suppose there would be people who would rationalize it away. How sad.

So, what is safe reading fare according to Palin, folks? I wonder if someone will ask her for book recommendations????
Current Mood: shockedshocked
girasole on September 5th, 2008 09:15 pm (UTC)
This list apparently has nothing to do wit Sarah Palin. Rowling's books were not even published when the incident described took place.
A lot of people are trying hard to untangle the core of truth, but I don't have it. Snopes might.
Faerlyn: banned booksfaerlyn_darkelf on September 5th, 2008 09:16 pm (UTC)
I couldn't get through faulkner, but I read flowers for algernon when I was a kid - loved it. and l'engle is one of my most favorite authors...wonder if she objects to many waters since it is sorta bible based......
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Katherine Quimbywordsrmylife on September 5th, 2008 10:55 pm (UTC)
I was just in a library which is already ready for banned books week--they've got a print-out of the books people tried to ban in 2008, as well as copies of a number of those books from their collection. Unfortunately, I don't remember any off the top of my head, but there were names we'd all recognize from high school. All kinds of librarians face these challenges from time to time. Personally, I don't care who it is, no one has a right to decide what I can or cannot read. I'm the only one who should be able to make that decision. When my now adult child was a minor, I felt that I was the only one who could tell her what she could or could not read (and I can't think of an instance where I did). I have no problem with the parents who don't want their child to be in the room when, for example, the teacher is reading one of the Harry Potter books out loud (a case I witnessed a number of years ago), but the correct solution was the one the school took. The child went to the library to read and the rest of the class heard the book.

But then, I'm with whoever it was who said that the only speech worth protecting is the speech with which I disagree. I guess that means people have the right to request a book be taken off the shelf. But they don't have a right to make it happen. Hmm.
thunderchikin on September 5th, 2008 11:26 pm (UTC)
I'm confused why the sponsor of Banned Books Week would ban commentary on someone who may be a book banner. I'm also wondering why it's political to worry about someone running for an office that is sworn to uphold the Constitution when that someone may have fired another someone for upholding First Amendment in that same Constitution. The Constitution is our government, not politics.

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thunderchikin on September 6th, 2008 01:46 pm (UTC)
You made my case for me. Palin called a librarian to inquire about banning books. Then later, she tried to have the librarian fired.

What is the source of your information? Why did Plain try to fire the librarian? Did I say anything about a list in my post? Why did you? Why are you so defensive?

I notice you didn't sign your name. Are you afraid?
(Anonymous) on September 6th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC)
No, I'm not afraid. But I am a teacher. I have blogs that my students have access to, and frankly, it's in appropriate to be political with a "captive audience." My source for there being NO list & NO firing is here http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html
(Anonymous) on September 6th, 2008 02:00 pm (UTC)
oops, I mean inappropriate, no in appropriate.
thunderchikin on September 6th, 2008 02:04 pm (UTC)
From your source: "Back in 1996, when she first became mayor, Sarah Palin asked the city librarian if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so. According to news coverage at the time, the librarian said she would definitely not be all right with it. A few months later, the librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, got a letter from Palin telling her she was going to be fired."

That's pretty cut and dried, don't yo think?

I'm a teacher, too. I didn't lose my First Amendment rights when I took my job. You didn't, either. Your students aren't a captive audience to *this* blog. Don't confuse politics with government. They aren't the same thing.

professornana: chutzpah catprofessornana on September 6th, 2008 05:00 pm (UTC)
Fact checking
SNOPES has the facts. I suggest you check their resources and references. My blog is my own, not for my students. It is open access, but I do label the political postings as political. I have rights here, too. You are NOT a captive audience for my blog unless someone has instructed you to read the blogs and summarize them for some class (and I cannot imagine who might do this). My own grad students are instructed to refer to the blog only for how to complete their own blog entries over the books they are reading. Books, I might add, that are on the Banned Books Lists for Texas and from ALA. If they are not already on the list, they will be one day. Any book worth its salt (if books can be salty) needs to be one that sparks conversation and thinking and allows for other opinions.

I removed the list from my first entry once I learned of the deception. However, those are books that others want removed from libraries so that my kids cannot access them. Thanks, but no thanks. Leave the selection of reading material to me, please. I do not condone banning in any form and am terrified that there are others who do (or who even inquire about doing it).

Flame away. I am wearing my asbestos underwear today.

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thunderchikin on September 6th, 2008 01:48 pm (UTC)
The banning of books can never be blown out of proportion. It is a heinous crime and a threat to every citizen and our government.The First Amendment is first because it is the most important.
laptop_dancerlaptop_dancer on September 6th, 2008 01:49 pm (UTC)
I researched this yesterday, and the banned book list does appear to be completely false. The bogus list originated from a comment by Andrew Aucoin on the blog of a librarian by the name of Jessamyn West. Like yourself, Ms. West very responsibly left her blog up but noted that the list is suspicious.

If you would like to see the blog in question: http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/